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Excellent comments fellas. Something needs to be done. Not all options are popular must be looked at for the health of the herd.
Governments, typicaly, don't do anything unless forced by public preasure to act or re- act. They tend to be reactive rather than proactive ..So, nothing will be done unless there is a public outcry and they are forced to react.
They hate media attention that forces them to do their job. So ,pressure , pressure, pressure. Keep it going.
Hello everyone who as interest in this topic of our Depleting moose Resouce,
I find it very difficult to believe that there’s 60k plus of us big game huntings on this magnificent island but yet we let SOPAC over rule our resource managing government into literally killing off our majestic moose population.
we talk amoung ourselves on how scarce the moose are and it’s pretty much all over the island with a few exceptions but yet the government must think we are just trying to write a make-believe story book. I agree with Boyd 100% that if we don’t see some dramatic cuts in the number of licenses, that the new reduced age for hunting big game is just a false feeling of excitement for our youth since there will be none to hunt. I’m not entirely sure how to get the attention of government but I think that we need to pull together as a group, get this done before it’s too late. I firmly believe that the moose population is at its lowest for many years and huntings are gaining even more access to remote areas then ever before thanks to muskrat falls power lines. Somehow I doubt that if this was in Western Canada that they would deplete their wildlife resources like we do ever so well here in Newfoundland.
I thought it time to weigh in on what amounts to govt interference on our natural resources. The Island & particularly the Avalon Peninsula is awash with either sex moose licenses. The roadside cull has 600 either sex licenses alone. You can still go on any of the woods roads and meet plenty of moose hunters who haven't so much as laid eyes on a moose this fall. They all have either sex moose licenses. Govt. decisions are political and not based on science. SOPAC has succeeded even beyond their expectations. It isn't rocket science as the outcome was obvious. Minister Byrne has at least indicated that they will at least look at reducing the licenses next year. To little to late I fear as now there is a mindset created through SOPAC & govt. propaganda to eradicate moose all together. We are at the tipping point & unless drastic action is taken this precious resource may be gone. I prefer to be an optomist but given this govt's attitude toward conservation in general, I cannot help but be a pessimist.
I do have to say that the new power line road they put will do the most damage to the the population. Hunter now can ride on it to locationa were moose has never seen a human before. So in saying that we see a lot of hunter camping out over big marshes and killing these big bull breaders. These bulls use to put out all the moose out to other hunting grounds and now that's been taken away. When do it stop. A friend of mine killed his first carbou walked up to him about 50 feet never see a human before. The government will not do a major cut in the license because they still want and need the money. It may be reduced in some areas but others will be still high to make up for it. Let's see if I am right
Heh folks , don't forget also that outfitters are accessing remote areas where moose have never seen a human being. These are the same moose that migrate to the more accessible hunting areas. So, if they are being harvested before they have a chance to migrate, this will have a direct impact the hunt. Be interesting to see that when they reduce the number of licenses, will it be across the board, and will the outfitters take the same hit as local hunters. ?????????????????????????
Doing a bit of hunting out here in central for moose also noticed there aren't many calves on the go. We also have the big hybrid coyotes here; wonder if they are partly responsible and how much. Last winter on couple skidoo outings for yote came across several dead moose, not sure of their demise but was within the hunting access roads. You think they are being shot and not tracked?
It sad it had to come to this. I know lots of guys thus year never got there moose. What's is sopac's next move. The moose population is gone. We see a good few cows this year and no calfs. To many dry cows around if you ask me. At the end of the day when moose can't be hunted in this Provence a lot of hunting stores,outfitter will take big hits. The government will feel it as well for the money will not be there like it was, if there is nothing to buy a license for. Just saying
Someone it seems is finally getting the message. It was the minister that told the wildlife division to come up with the extra licenses back in 2011. All the changes that were made to bring the number of moose down was based on pressure from Sopac not good wildlife management practices.
I think that is called over management, which in the end amounts to mismanagement. I>E prime example::::
The way they 'managed' the Avalon caribou heard. The herd was managed to the point of over-polulation, over grassing ....etc. so nature had to kick in and do what the crowd in Wildlife were not resourced intellectually to do.
I've been hunting area 33 salmonier saw one cow moose this year that's all
Yesterday while checking a few rabbit snares, I came across a dead bull calf on a sod farm off the Markland road. It had its throat cut and obviously the perpetrator knew what happened. They shot the cow as well as there were ravens and a bald eagle scavenging off the remains at the edge of a bog some five hundred feet away. I am going to report the incident to wildlife but know that it is a waste of time. Still I feel compelled to not let this go. When the moose are all gone we will have no one but ourselves to blame. By the way, the poaching operation to which Ray Hynes is referring to operates behind Carbonear. The center of operations is into Peg's Pond. It is a very organized operation and has been going on for years. I informed wildlife where it was, how they are taking the animals out, etc., but nothing was done and to my knowledge it is still going on. I can go on with that one but I digress.
That's easy, so called
'willlife management " is a bit of a joke. Some day, sometime, those turkeys in Environment Dept., will realize that policies and attitudes have to change before it is dam near too late, and the species has a reached a critical low.
Got me moose and never fired a shot. I witnessed three guys on a hill firing at two moose on a bog. They downed a cow but the bull got away. I knew they struck the bull and they never even went to check on it. My buddy and I decided to check out where the bull went into the woods and sure enough there was a good blood trail. I never got fifty feet in the woods and there was a lovely 14 point bull dead. I was both pissed off at the lack of sportsmanship on the part of the laddos and elated at having gotten it over with finally. Seriously though, what is going on with people?
Rabbits very scarce out my way
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